Showing posts with label X00370. Show all posts
Showing posts with label X00370. Show all posts

Monday, August 11, 2025

X00370 & X00371 Nancy Rothwell Birth info - Solved!

Nancy Rothwell appears in the 1841 census living with the rest of the Rothwell family, aged 13 (implying a birth year of about 1828). Unfortunately, she doesn't appear in any later census records with the family that I could find.



This information created a few questions as described in previous posts:
  • X00370 - Birth information for Nancy Rothwell
  • X00371 - When did Henry Rothwell and Alice Hacking get married?


I have found a marriage record for Henry and Alice in 1833



A marriage in 1833 implies that Nancy was likely born before the marriage. And sure enough I found an interesting baptism record:



It's a baptism record for a Nancy Rothwell, baptised 21 May 1841 and the parents are Henry and Alice Rothwell. And Henry is listed as a carter which matches. The actual date of birth however is given as 2 April 1828, which would match. So, it's a definite possibility that Nancy was born 2 April 1828 out of wedlock, but was baptised later in life (at age 13) when the parents were married.

So this fits. I did however, find a baptism record dated 11 Oct 1829 for a Nanny Hacking, born to an Alice Hacking, with no father listed:



This could be an original baptism record, but the date and location don't match and there's not enough other information to tell for sure.

I did also look into the possibility that Alice Hacking as married previously and found a marriage record between an Alice Strong and a James Hacking on 28 November 1828.



But this seems unlikely. For one thing, Alice is listed as a spinster in the 1833 marriage record, and the name Hacking appears as a middle name for one of her children. Also, the marriage would have taken place after Nancy was born, according to her later baptism. So, it would seem that this is more of a coincidence than anything else. I have also found James and Alice Hacking in later census records.

After considering the evidence and timing, it would appear that the 1841 baptism record for Nancy Rothwell and the 1833 marriage record for Henry Rothwell and Alice Hacking are the correct records.

Monday, March 31, 2025

The Rothwell Family Part 3

I"m reviewing the information that I have to ensure that I have the correct surnames with the Rothwell family.



We know that Alice Ann Taylor’s last name was Rothwell from her daughter's birth record [D00449].

I also checked the GRO Indexes for both of the other children - Mary Alice Taylor, born 1867 and Charles William Taylor, born 1870. In both index records for them, the mother's name is given as Rothwell. So, I'm confident there.

Next, I had a look for Alice Rothwell's maiden name. Her marriage record [D00866] only lists her father as Henry Rothwell; no mention of the mother. Her baptism record [D00085] gives parents as Henry and Alice Rothwell. On the other hane, her birth record [D01711] does give us an answer and lists the mother as "Alice Rothwell, formerly Hacking".

So, we have established, that her maiden name is Hacking. I have found a marriage record for a Henry Rothwell and Alice Hacking in 1833. It all seems to fit except for one slight problem According to the 1841 census, Nancy ROthwell was born around 1828. So does this mean:
  • Nancy Rothwell was born out of wedlock before they were married?
  • Nancy Rothwell was born to one of the parents prior to their marriage?
  • Is there an error somewhere and Nancy Rothwell is not their child?

There is a marriage record found from around 1828 between a John Hacking and an Alice Strong. Perhaps Alice was born Alice Strong, and Hacking is her first married name. There seems to be a few things that need further investigation:
X00370 Investigate Nancy Rothwell Birth info
X00371 Investigate Henry Rothwell & Alice Hacking Marriage



Sources
[D00085] Saint Mary, Blackburn (Blackburn, Lancashire, England), "Baptism Record - Alice Ann Rothwell"; FHL microfilm Batch No. C110009; Dates 1844 - 1845; Source Call No. 1278805.

[D00449] England and Wales, birth certificate for Jane Taylor, born October 12, 1864; citing 8e/286/97, D quarter 1864, Blackburn registration district, Blackburn sub-district; General Register Office, Southport.

[D00866] England and Wales, marriage certificate for James Taylor and Alice Ann Rothwell, married jun 28 1864; citing 8e/452/216, J quarter 1864, Blackburn registration district, Blackburn sub-district; General Register Office, Southport.

[D01711] England and Wales, birth certificate for Alice Ann Rothwell, born 11 November 1844; citing 08e/350/221, 4 quarter 1844, Blackburn registration district, Blackburn sub-district; General Register Office, Southport.